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December 5th, 2008 at 7:37 am
hi
you read ,my mind on Laura marlory aka luicus malfory
love you show
December 5th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Haven’t listened to the show yet, but based on bec’s comment – John Granger was making the same link between the Malfoy book-banning conflict at the Harry Haters (like Mallory).
December 5th, 2008 at 9:39 am
John was making the connection but I think he was also saying it was a stretch on JKR’s part. And that comparing concerned parents, however misguided they may be, to nazis & racists was rather a low blow on Jo’s part.
And I also think that despite her comments through Dumbledore about the people who sanitize things for children & try to protect them from life that Jo herself as a parent does not let her children read, watch, or engage in any & every activity they would want to do. She probably protects them to some extent. Well, she actually did protect her children from the harsh realities of the paparazzi by suing to ban photos of her children. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
Granted I agree with her comments on sanitizers for the most part but let’s also not go overboard on it the other way either.
December 5th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Hmmm so what did Penny think of the book? Did she have a favorite? I am guessing Greg’s fav was Babbitty Rabbity. Episode 95! Wow that makes the next one 96 for the host that should have paid more attention to learning math. Golly you,d think he went to University back in the 60’s.
December 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
OMG! I cannot wait to read this book! It is on my Christmas list
December 5th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
I think Paparazzi, taking pictures of young childern (very unsure how old her childern really are) is different form dark fairy tales.
But i cant wait to read the book
December 5th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Hi,
I like the talk about Beedle, it’s nice to have new Harry Potter canon (it is canon for me!) Dumbledore’s commentary is great, and I think it shows us a slghtly different side of him–the guy who does stuff while Harry’s in class or off playing Quidditch. I think the stories wee great, whether adults read them, or whether children read them (except Hairy Heart). I liked all of the stories, and I really liked their themes and morals, from generosity to death. I think they carry powerful messages, and that this companion book is a lot more than the previous two; it’s a deep look at Wizarding society.
December 5th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
HI great podcast happy holidays
December 5th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Hey HPProgs
So, George ask us to comment even if you don’t do it normally.
My name is Sofia, I am a fan of you guys from Brazil and…. I have no idea what to say, besides that Penny Rocks!
I’m just passing to say hi, I listen to the podcast since episode 50.
Byee
December 5th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Well, you told me to post a comment.
So hi!
Great show!
Very good discussion and entertaining as always!
My favourite tale was the Warlock’s Hairy Heart.
Now I want to read about Grumble the Grubby Goat and how he attracted so many flies!
December 5th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
hi,
just an idea on a possible next book from J.K. Rowling, i was thinking one of the spell books that harry etc use at hogwarts, maybe A History Of Magic by Bathilda Bagshot? Just an idea.
December 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Hi! Love the show. I wasn’t going to get the book but given your rave reviews I will pick it up tomorrow.
JK owes u guys some $$$.
December 6th, 2008 at 4:38 am
Hi Greg & Penny! I loved episode 95 and your scintillating and intelligent discussion of Beedle the Bard. I’m writing to tell Greg the elements of (3) that I found in the Warlock’s Hairy Heart story, that comply with his theory of the significance of that happening. On page 51, after he puts the hairy heart into his chest, (3) things occur: “The touch of her soft white arms, the sound of her breath in his hair, and the scent of her heavy gold hair: All pierced the newly awakened heart like spears.” This is what causes him to commit the heinous act of killing her and ripping out her heart, thus leading to his tragic downfall. Earlier, there is also the mention of (3) occurrences among his friends that cause him to be smug and a little self-congratulatory. On page 44 it says, “The first freshness of youth waned, and the warlock’s peers began to wed, and then to bring forth children.” In an abstract way, these things that he despises and ridicules all continue to validate his decision and steer him down an empty, lonely road. Lastly, and this might be a stretch, but he does delineate (3) qualities that his superior wife will have, on pages 46-47: “She would possess astounding beauty, … ; … spring from magical lineage, … ; and … have wealth at least equal to his own, … “
December 6th, 2008 at 5:33 am
Hey again Greg & Penny! I thought of another thing that you brought up in the podcast, but didn’t really get into that much, that puzzled me when I read it in Dumbledore’s commentary for Babbity Rabbity, on pages 84-85. He says, “Animagi … keep all their human thinking and reasoning powers. This, as every school child knows, is the fundamental difference between being an Animagus and Transfiguring oneself into an animal. In the case of the latter, one would become the animal entirely, with the consequence that one would know no magic, be unaware that one had ever been a wizard, and would need somebody else to Transfigure one back to one’s original form.” OK, I’m puzzled because for the 2nd task in GOF Viktor Krum Transfigures himself into a shark, albeit poorly, to save Hermione. How could he have rescued her, or even have known that’s what he was supposed to do, since he would have no magic, and no knowledge of being a wizard, or of what he was doing? He would no longer have the memory of the mermaid song from the egg, let alone any memories? Not to mention, if he became a shark entirely, he wouldn’t have let Hermione, or any of them, for that matter, live, and definitely wouldn’t have brought Hermione to the surface? Some of you might be saying that he poorly Transfigured himself, so that could be the reason; however, even when you look at it that way it doesn’t make sense, because the part of him he was able to Transfigure properly was the head, which contains the brain and thought center? He uses his hands to grab her around the waist and pull her to the surface. Also, who Transfigured him back once he was on land? Lastly, why did the judges, including Dumbledore, say he ” … used an incomplete form of Transfiguration, which was nevertheless effective, … ” if basic school children understand the fundamental difference between Animagi and Transfiguration? Shouldn’t he have been disqualified for endangering the lives of the students under water? Wouldn’t he have been completely ineffective if the Transfiguration were complete? Or, if the incomplete Transfiguration was actually an incomplete transition to an Animagi form, perhaps because he hadn’t been studying it for very long, wouldn’t he have been arrested by the Ministry of Magic, or at least reprimanded, for being an unregistered Animagus? Wow, I’m gonna stop there, but I’ve been thinking about this ever since I read it. Love the show, take care!
December 6th, 2008 at 7:56 am
Great podcast – you guys see so much more that I do!
I have to say that I enjoyed the book much more than I expected to. I am one of those people who is not a huge “Fairy Tale” fan and when I read the portions in DH that discussed the Tales I was as attentive/interested. I thought when Ron explained them they sounded silly. Now I need to go back to DH and see what exactly was said about the Tales and the Elder Wand.
I will have to reread but had a thought regarding whether the wand is unbeatable versus whether the person who owns the wand is unbeatable. For instance, I would say that the PERSON in the Tale of 3 Brothers was beat, not the wand.
Greg, somewhere I heard that for every comment there are 5 out there that do not comment. Don’t know how they came up with that. My thought is that it is probably higher. Speaking from my own experience as a long time lurker, I would say that the % of things I comment on, versus the things I see/like is much lower.
December 6th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Dear Penny,
You were wondering about the inscriptions on the FFF. I think most of them are NOT greek letters, but alchemistic and astrological signs- in a combination of Planets and Zodiac signs.
The top/smallest basin has the sign of the planet MARS on the rim, and the sign of MOON and SUN underneath. (In Alchemy, it would be IRON on the rim, and PLATINUM underneath)
The second basin has the sign of JUPITER on the rim, and the sign of LIBRA underneath. It looks a bit like an Omega, but Libra makes more sense to me, as it is an Astrological sign just like the rest.
The third basin has the sign of MERCURY on the rim (both the planet and the metal sare the same symbol), and the ALLSEEING EYE (I suppose?) underneath.
The fourth and largest basin has the sign of SATURN on the rim and obvioulsy the Deathly Hallows-symbol underneath.
Love your show –
Regards from the Netherlands
Tinscvil
December 6th, 2008 at 10:11 am
Hi! I enjoy the podcasts. I look forward to reading the Beedle the Bard book.
December 6th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
regarding DD’s inferiority complex
I think that it reflects some of Jo’s feelings herself –
she states in the documentary “a year in the life” that although she knows how to hide it very well: sitting in a room full of people trying to impress her (i.e. holywood executives) is when she feels the most fraudulent
so here she is the most brilliant and powerful wizard but nevertheless very self conscious and unassuming
December 6th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
I am leaving a comment because you asked so sweetly Greg, well… more accurately because you wished… kinda… nicely… I guess.
I am one of those listeners that download the show faithfully but don’t really comment or participate in the contests. Sometimes I don’t get to listen to the podcast until weeks after it’s posted, and by then it feels like everyone has already moved on (what with more recent podcasts available) so any late commenting seems rather pointless. Maybe there are other listeners out there that experience the same sorta thing?
But, because I was able to listen to Episode 95 today, I thought I’d just let you know… I’m out there really enjoying your prodcast no matter when I hear it. Overall, I just appreciate that you both take the time to share your thoughts about the world of Harry Potter… so even though I may not comment much, if ever, I am a fan.
December 6th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
Hi,
I don’t normally comment, although I’ve been listening to the show since August or September 2007. I really enjoy the show, and I particularly enjoyed this episode.
I found Penny’s comment that Dumbledore is self-loathing to be particularly intriguing, and I hope that you talk about that more on the show.
Here’s to many more episodes!
December 6th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Hi HP Prognosticators!
Thanks for another great episode! (Actually the last 3 episodes have been very good)
And I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I would love to see a LOST podcast from you guys or a general pop culture show. Think about it and in the mean time keep on prognosticating!!
Cheers!
December 7th, 2008 at 2:54 am
HI there guys, love the podcast. Just picked up the book and can’t wait to read it.
December 7th, 2008 at 6:38 am
RE: 1717 a random dip into the web ( from http://www.virtuescience.com/1717.html )
– Prime Factors of 1717=17×101. (me: JKR is very keen on prime numbers)
– 1717 is a Pentagonal Number. > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PentagonalNumber.html
– In the year 1717 AD Voltaire was imprisoned in the Bastille, because of his … satirical writings.
December 7th, 2008 at 7:01 am
I think my favourite would have to be the Fountain of Fair Fortune because of the lack of magical powers the fountain actually had, it was the journey that made them happy.
Love the show Ellen.
December 7th, 2008 at 8:12 am
[...] HP Progs Episode #95 is on Beedle. I haven’t had a chance to listen yet, because my weekend’s been busy, and I’ve been occupied with this recording of John Milton’s Paradise Lost. Once I’m driving back and forth to work on Tuesday, I’ll finally have a chance to listen. [...]
December 7th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
hey guys, luv ur podcast a lot
I have been listening to the show since like forever and just wanna thank you both for keeping me entertained for days on end.
L@ur@
xoxo
December 8th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Another long time lurker who is responding to Greg’s request for comments. I am in KlarVasser’s situation – I download and listen to every single episode but am usually so far behind that even if I have time to post it seems too late to add anything. I am making the extra effort this time because I wanted you to know how very much I appreciate the uniqueness of your podcast. Of course I love anything Harry Potter related and so listen to all the other major podcasts, but it is always such a relief to get to yours and settle down to a no-frills, seriously in depth discussion. This is a great podcast! And Sofia is right – Penny Rocks!
December 8th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Hey guys! I just finished listening to your latest episode about Beetle the Bard-great as usual! I was wondering if you could maybe do a future episode on numerology in HP (like the number 7). I’ve always found that interesting. Keep up the great work!
December 8th, 2008 at 7:41 pm
I’ve listened to your podcast since Deathly Hallows came out, but have never commented before. I really like your show even if you guys are Red Sox fans and Greg is a Frodo/Sam shipper.
It’s nice to have a community of people who also ran right out and bought Beedle the Bard. Most of my friends have read Harry Potter, but aren’t quite that dedicated.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
I never realized it, but yes, I am a Frodo/Sam shipper. Wow.
December 8th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Hello Greg and Penny.
I still really look forward to every podcast you guys do. I love discussions where I do not feel like I am walking down the hallway of a high school. I have not picked up the book yet but it sounds like I would very much enjoy it.
Greg and Penny on a side note I was wondering what you thought of the office thus far in the season? I am big fan and watch them weekly.
Love the Show! Keep up the awesome conversations.
December 9th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I got my Beedle the Bard book yesterday. I splurged on the collectors edition and I was not disappointed (unlike the boxed set from Amazon in the cheapo cardboard “trunk”). I thought everything looked very cool. I listened to your podcast, but I’ve yet to finish reading the whole book, so I need to get busy!
Love the podcast!!
December 9th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Hi! I finally just finished listening to this episode, my university has had finals this week. =/
I really enjoyed the episode though, I have yet to read the book since it’s on my Christmas list. But, it was good to hear your thoughts about it, and I’m really excited to read it now!
I just started listening to this podcast in September, but I really enjoy it. Keep up the good work! =D Thanks
December 9th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Hey guys! Just finished listening to the podcast. Fun and thought-provoking as always. I feel like my life has been busy and even though I quickly read the Tales I haven’t had a ton of time to process them. You guys got me thinking about them, so thank you!
Two random thoughts:
So, am I the only weirdo that thought Babbity Rabbity’s cackling stump was a stump of an arm or leg upon first hearing the titles of the Tales? How bizarre is that? It never occurred to me “stump of a tree” until I read it. Strange.
Also, I always thought Asha was pronounced with a short “O” sound, like Asha Dornfest from http://www.parenthacks.com (a fun parenting site.)
These are my brilliant insights for the conversation.
Thanks!
December 10th, 2008 at 4:06 am
Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that I listen to (and thoroughly enjoy) every podcast even if I don’t comment on all of them!
Maybe I’m being cynical, but the moral I got out of the first story (the one about the hopping pot) was that the wizard had to be badgered into doing good deeds, and continued doing them more out of fear of punishment than because he had a genuine change of heart. I think we’re supposed to assume that he was redeemed, but we never actually see him feeling sorry for his previous selfishness, or finding that it feels good to help someone. Is a good deed really “good” if someone is being forced to do it against their will? Does the wizard have an obligation to help the villagers just because he has the power to do so? In Muggle terms, would it be okay to force a miserly rich man to give away some of his fortune to charity?
Okay, I’m probably reading too much into a simple fairy tale…
My favorite story was the one about the fountain, and I thought it was funny that Lucius Malfoy tried to get it banned. ^_^
And wow, “The Hairy Heart” was pretty gruesome for a children’s story! But as you mentioned, the original Grimms tales were pretty gruesome too. I recall that Cinderella’s stepsisters cut pieces off their feet to try and make them fit the shoe.
Anyhow, thanks for the podcast, and keep up the good work!
December 10th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
hello…long time listener, first time writer. Hope this boost y’alls egos.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
have listened to the podcast for a long time and really enjoy it. esp. liked the patterns in potter episodes…
December 11th, 2008 at 9:02 am
I’ve listened to every episode but never commented. Nice job with the podcast, keep up the good work.
December 11th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Hey Greg and Penny, just finished the book and the podcast. I’ve been on a non-spoiler kick, no Harry Potter until I finished Beedle. It took the mail a week to get here. Look forward to more of your analysis on the book.
Two comments: JKR made sure to point out that she had strong female characters in Beedle. Makes me think back to your gender podcast.
Second, when I heard that we would learn more about the Malfoys, Sir Nicholas and the owners of the Elder Wand. I thought well…there would be more. I understand why based on the format of the book that the information was presented this way. I guess I wanted a laundry list of the owners of the elder wand.
December 12th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Great Discussion!
December 12th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Hi Greg and Penny! Just wanted to say hi and to let you know that I love your podcast. I saw you both at Portus this year, but I didn’t know about your website or podcast at that time. I haven’t seen the video yet, but I’m pretty sure I must be in it – must look.
I loved Episode 95 and had one comment with regards to no witch ever admitting to owning the Elder Wand. I took this footnote to mean that no witch was ever dumb enough to admit they owned the wand, as opposed to no witch had simply ever owned it. I sort of envision it as though if a witch did get the wand, that it simply passed hands once she died and that maybe she got it in the first place in the same way.
December 12th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Hi like always love the show.
December 14th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Hi!
I love your podcast! I started listening to you as soon as your first episode was available and I’ve listened to all of them. However, I never leave a comment because I usually listen to you while commutting… Sorry!
I really enjoyed listening to the episode on Beedle. I haven’t read it yet, because it is way TOO expensive over here. I’m going to wait till I can get a cheaper edition.
Happy Holidays from Argentina!
Look forward to your podcasts!
December 15th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Hi, sorry on comenting so late, just read the book and listened to the episode today, great work as always!
I’m glad you enjoyed the book as much as I did, my favorite one was the warlocks hairy heart
this is my first time commenting here, I love the podcast, is easily the best potter podcast around
don’t know what else to say… you guys rock! greetings from venezuela
December 15th, 2008 at 10:06 am
Hi!
December 15th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
hey im acually listning to the podcast as im writing this because i just got a chance to fully read the book. i wanted to point out two things the first is that when you were talking about j.k. rowling placing herself in the books because she wrote “those familiar with the history of the most recent wizarding war everyone who has read all seven volumes on the life of harry potter for instance” to support that in the beginning of the first book she writes “when mr and mrs dursley woke up on a dull gray tuesday our story starts” so shes writing it as if it already happened and she is narrorating the story not harry i personally always belived she would end the books by writing “and so ends our story” or something like that but in much better words
my second observation is that the stories get much more serious as the book progresses. i mean its starts out with a man running away from a hopping pot and ends with three brothers fighting with death
sorry for such a long post but i really wanted to get this out and sorry if somebody already wrote about it but i tried to look through the comments to see if anyone did but there were to many.
December 15th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
Just saying hi… Love the podcast! In my opinion, HPProgs is, far and away, the most intelligent (and best) Harry Potter podcast around. I’ve listened from the beginning so thanks for all the episodes!
December 16th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Hey Greg and Penny!
I’m listening to the podcast right now, and just heard the part where you wondered if Bertrand de Pensees-Profondes was made up or not … I haven’t googled it, but I do know some French, and “Pensees Profondes” means “profound thoughts” … so I think he’s a faker! But I do love JKR’s frequent play on words with names (i.e. Umbridge – umbrage)
Keep up the great work! Can’t wait to hear # 100
December 18th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Hey, I loved this episode! Keep up the great work! I am so glad I got my Collector’s Edition! I think I will go buy one of your shirts now, because Greg told me to. hahaha
December 18th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Howdy again. Been awhile.
Still try and catch your podcast whenever I can but I got a bit behind. Just listened to this one. I liked the Fountain of Fair Fortune but think I liked Babbity Rabbity best, That was also the case when I read the summaries Amazon released. Not sure why, but of the bunch those two struck me as stories a kid would really get into. They somehow felt like a “real’ fairy tale.
I’m interested Penny, remembering our discussion last summer…. Now you have read new actual cannon—even written by Dumbledore cannon— knowing that Dumbledore is gay. Did that knowledge change your perception at all as you were reading? Did you even remember it as you read the book?
Season’s Best!
Bill
December 18th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
First of all, can I just say I LOVE YOU ALL!! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. It is great to see some old familiar names as well as so many new and “delurked” names!
Bill- Interesting question. No I didn’t think about Dumbledore being gay when I read Beedle the Bard because it made no difference to that story. If you will remember, I only think it changed cannon in that his motivations for muggle suppression may have been fueled by his desire to please Grindelwalde as opposed to his desire for power as it seemed in DH. In any event, great to hear from you again!
December 18th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Just in case I didn’t comment before, I meant to! Love the show!
December 18th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
I am really Sarah, darn typos.
December 18th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Penny—interesting answer! You forgot to think about is so………if you had read B the B BEFORE you knew he was gay it would have been the same……which means…. maybe if you had read DH AFTER you knew it wouldn’t have mattered either.
Leading us to conclude, as I said when we were on this before, the thing that matters about Dumbledore being gay is that it doesn’t matter that Dumbledore is gay.
Yeah, I know, evil to mess with you during the holidays!!
Happy Hanukkah!!
Bill
December 19th, 2008 at 8:48 am
Once again, the fact that Dumbledore is gay is a non-issue for me. Always was.
My issue is that the original story/cannon was changed when she said that his infatuation w/ Grindelwalde led him down the path that it did. Once again, if we found out after the fact that Dumbledore had had a torrid love affair with a muggle girl that ended badly and that is what made him want to put down muggles at that time in his life, I’d have the *exact same* issues. Make sense?
December 20th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Yeah, makes total sense!
But still, same point—-if it had been a hot torrid affair with a steamy witch that made dabble in world domination would you have been thinking about that while you read B the B??? Probably not. Best I remember (and I’m old so if I remember wrong it’s not my fault!!) your feeling was that adding that bit of sexuality to Dumbledore, whatever the orientation should not have been seen as “real” cannon as it somehow changed things. My point is that it may have changes your perception of that one little stab at taking over the world but basically Dumbledore stays Dumnledore. The real larger question was whether the bits of information JKR was giveing out were too much and somehow would change how one read the books And with B the B we HAVE a new Harry Potter book to test it. Didn’t matter that Dumbledore was gay just like it didn’t really mater that Neville has been sleeping with Hannah Abbott for years. Or that Draco lost his hair. Never once did I think of Draco’s hair as I read B the B!!! That sort of additional cannon is just interesting stuff. The books still, and always will, stand as themselves whether you have the additional bits or not.
But in the same way it matters to African American kids that Dean and Kingsley are back Dumbledore being gay matters very much in to all the young (and old) gay people reading the books. It’s one of those things that really is insignificant to cannon but makes a strong social statement.
Got a ton of things–flying out west Monday—to do but I had forgotten how much fun it is to poke at you Penny!!!
Enjoy the turn of the Season tomorrow!
Bill
December 20th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Hi Greg and Penny!
Greg, your version of The Rose sounded better than the original!
There’s a beautiful Dutch version by Ann Christie, who sadly died of cancer years ago. The English version is better though. I don’t think the translation is as strong as the original.
My favorite story was The Fountain of Fair Fortune. I don’t really know why. I guess i’m just a big softie, because the last line of that story about how the water of the fountain wasn’t magical at all but everyone found the ‘fortune’ they were looking for in themselves, almost got me in tears.
But anyways, i just wanted to say hi and tell you that i’ve been listening to this podcast for just a little over a year now, and i still really enjoy every episode; even though i listen to them a little late sometimes.
Happy Holidays and greetings from Belgium! xxx
December 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Hi Guys,
never commented before but having just listened to the latest podcast i thought i would say hi. Been listening to you forever and enjoy every second. Thanks!!
Paul, UK x
December 23rd, 2008 at 1:27 am
I just listened to your podcast and wanted to comment to thank you. I enjoy listening and hope you keep going.
December 25th, 2008 at 3:33 am
HI GREG AND PENNY! YAY HPPROGS!
December 27th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Hello,
I always listen, but hardly comment because of how late I hear the podcasts. I have a couple of comments. Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne, MEP is a real person MEP= Member of the European Parliament. Dumbledore left the book to Hermione but the notes to the Library. It’s not a different version of the book, he didn’t leave the book to the Library only the notes. At least that’s what I understood.
About the large institutions for children in Europe when kids are taken from their parent’s or orphaned there are large institutions like the old American Orphanages that are large and have way too many children in the same building. There is now a moving (in some countries) towards smaller homes where small groups of children live as siblings with those responsible for them, but not foster parents.
About the Elder Wand, I agree with Shannon, that a witch may have owned the waned simply no witch ever “claimed” to own it. They couldn’t have died naturally owning it, otherwise it would have lost its power, so it was either won or taken….
Hope you all had a Happy Hannukah, Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year.
-MamaeAzores
December 30th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Hi Greg and Penny! Just wanted to post so that you can count me in as a listener (occasional). I loved Beedle and enjoyed your discussion, although I have to correct you on philosophy – Greg started out to say “Platonism” to describe realities beyond this world, and then changed it to “Aristotelianism.” You were right the first time, and they are not synonyms. Plato taught that eternal forms or ideals existed, and that earthly individual objects conformed more or less to them. Aristotle gave more attention to the particular and earthly. Anyway, THANKS for the podcast! Happy 2009, everyone!
December 30th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
One more commenter coming in late! I put off this episode till reading the book for myself (my husband got it for me for Christmas), so I didn’t get to hear it till yesterday. As always, I very much enjoyed the discussion.
December 31st, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Hi guys, I finally had time to finish listening to this episode! I was wondering why everyone was commenting on this post until I heard the whole thing. BTW I love your new Deathly Hallows shirt, friends at school keep asking me if it’s a band logo of some sort hahaha!
January 4th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Finally read the book and heard this episode. Never commented before but have been a listener for more than a year. Started in the 40’s and then downloaded all the podcasts and finally caught up. You guys are awesome and a pleasure to listen to. Hope you guys had a Happy New Year. Will listen to the next episode as soon as I can. Keep up the great work!
January 22nd, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Hi
I think you’re wrong that the wizarding world is separate from our world. I actually think the fact that it the wizarding world is secret and therefore could be real is one of the most attractive aspects of the series.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Hi Greg and Penny! Greg- you told me to comment, so I am. I’m a little (haha) late, but I’m listening to the show now because I downloaded all the episodes I could after hearing you both on Smartmouths. Love this show too! Yay!