Episode #54: J.K. Rowling Speaks
J.K. Rowling has begin her Open Book Tour, with stops in Los Angeles, New Orleans and New York City. At the press conference at the LA appearance, J.K. Rowling spoke for the first time at length on the religious themes of the Harry Potter books, speaking openly about the Christian themes and references in Book 7. She also spoke about Snape, Dumbledore, the Harry Potter Encyclopedia and how she broke the news of the fate of the trio to the actors who portrayed them.
- Details from the Open Book Tour LA press conference - Religion. (MTV News)
- More from MTV on Snape and Dumbledore.
- J.K. Rowling talks to the movie stars (MTV Movies Blog).
- More from the NY Post.
For reference, check out our original post on the religion of Harry Potter.
In other news:
- Video Games Live concert features music from the Harry Potter games.
- Filming for Half-Blood Prince movie begins next week.
If you have a few minutes, please vote for HPProgs for Best Podcast in the 2007 Weblog Awards!
This week’s Top 5! Vote for your most memorable character from the Harry Potter novels:
Who is the most memorable character in the Harry Potter series?
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October 19th, 2007 at 7:18 am
Happy Birthday Penny!
October 19th, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Happy Birthday, Penny!
October 19th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Sorry a little late, but Happy Birthday Penny
October 19th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
Thanks for the Birthday shout out.
I hope you all have a wonderful year and Penny has a fantastic Birthday! Now that we have dispensed with the pleasantries commander. The emperor is most displeased by your apparent lack of progress. Top 5 most memoriable characters and there is no mention of Hagrid? I have continously fought for equal rights for big oafs (being one myself) and yet here we go again………. Good show though.
October 19th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
Hi, Greg and Penny,
I have finally come by to argue
… and yes, to agree as well. Your podcast this week was lots of fun as always. Happy Birthday, Penny!
As far as the general public goes, I think the characters you picked for top 5 were pretty much spot-on; of course, I was fascinated with Dumbledore from the first chapters of Philosopher’s Stone and never have gotten too interested in Snape, so I’m kind of different. Aaron has a good point with Hagrid, who is unforgettable from his first scenes; Sirius is still beloved to many of us, and even Luna has some following.
Personally, the characters that live most constantly in my mind are Harry, Lily, Hermione, Dumbledore, and Dobby (I even talk to myself in Dobbyspeak sometimes … should I admit that in public?) and perhaps Ron.
You guys have a great ‘cast and I listen faithfully. Still catching up on back episodes too!
October 19th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
OMG I just read that Jo said Dumbledore was gay and in love with Grindewald! She is so awesome for revealing that. I have to go back and see if there were any clues to this in the book.
October 20th, 2007 at 2:05 am
Hi Penny and Greg I really want to congratulate you both on this weeks podcast, I really enjoyed the subject of Life and Death and believe it would be worthy of an essay is I was that way inclined.
I am a big believer of life after death but I am not religious or have any affliations to any religion. I guess it is because I like to believe that if you are loved in life you never really die as there is always your memory which the ones you love keep alive for you.
I lost my mother 5 years ago and there is not a day that I don’t think of her so in some way she is still here with me even though I can’t go and see her or pick up the phone to talk to her. I do still talk to her though and I do smell her perfume sometimes so I like to think she comes and visits.
I like the idea that JK Rowling has put a similar belief into her books and maybe that is why I like them so much. I was thinking while you were talking that because VM had no love in his life the only way he could become immortal was in name, but it didn’t really work as nobody wanted to speak his name.
I could go on forever on this topic because every character has some tie into this theme but I wanted to say that that even though Harry and Neville have both lost their parents of some sort, neither have been able to grieve, Neville can’t because they are still alive and Harry because the Dursley’s never really let him.
I also want to add that I am embarrased that my Snape obsession has led to you naming me in a podcast, but I will go on loving my vindictive potions master even if Ms Rowling want to slap him. Nice to see he is leading the poll too. and an OMG to Hue’s post above that DD is gay, never would’ve picked it!!!
October 20th, 2007 at 4:39 am
I really enjoyed this episode, so thanks for that!
And the poll is a great idea, too!
October 20th, 2007 at 7:59 am
Sexuality in Harry Potter got far more interesting this evening. (My moneys on a little irish gryffindor boy as well…starts with an S..)
Anyway, happy birthday Penny!
Why did he fall in love with Grindal V ald? Whats his appeal??
October 20th, 2007 at 11:10 am
http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5231049.html
this is what was on the front page of our Houston Paper today ..
Dumbledore Gay!!!
October 20th, 2007 at 11:11 am
this is what was on the front page of our Houston Paper today ..
Dumbledore Gay!!!
What!!!!!!
October 20th, 2007 at 12:30 pm
Greg and Penny, that was a great podcast. Very interesting and well done. I was particularly glad to hear Rowling talk about the Christian content of the books, as that was something I had seen for a very long time. (I also spend a lot of my time over at John Granger’s site, Hogwarts Professor, and Travis Prinzi’s site, Sword of Gryffindor, so the Christian aspects are something we discuss a lot.)
I really was disappointed that Rowling felt the need to reveal Dumbledore’s sexual orientation. I didn’t see any hint of it in the book, so what’s the point of telling it now? It’s only going to cause controversy and split the Harry Potter community as well. It really seemed like some sort of bad publicity stunt to me, and I thought she was above that sort of cheap trick.
She knows that these books are read by a large number of children, even though she has said she wrote the story for herself. So what are the parents of all those children supposed to do with this information? And there’s no hope that they won’t hear it. Kids have enough trouble sorting out how boy/girl relationships work. My daughters are adults, so thankfully it isn’t a problem for me.
The only good thing is that she doesn’t show that Dumbledore’s relationship was a happy one or a lasting one. But those who are happy to see a gay character are not acknowledging that part at all. What she does show for lasting happy relationships are the married heterosexual couples of the Weasleys, James and Lily, the Lupins (after a little glitch), and even the Dursleys (who seem to be happy with each other, weird as they both are). Even Snape’s “always” love for Lily falls right in there.
She doesn’t, however light-hearted her comments were at Carnegie Hall about Dumbledore being gay, show a gay character who has an easy or a happy relationship. I’ll take my consolation from that view point, I suppose.
One more thing, if that’s an indication of what will be in the promised encyclopedia, I’ll pass. Like some others, I think it’s time for her to stop talking about the books. They can stand on their own merit very nicely–and she should let them.
Pat
October 20th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Ok I woke up today and got happy birthday dad Dumbledore is gay. If this is true we need to recast the movie role with Nathan Lane. Robin Williams as Snape and Gene Hackman as Voldemorte. I can’t believe Ritter Skeeter would have missed that detail. Maybe it’s because of all the wand-lore. I always thought the wizarding world needed a cabaret. Of course this may rekindle the whole Laura Mallory thing.
October 20th, 2007 at 1:42 pm
Great episode i really enojyed it! i was taking my SAT today and of the words they used was prognostication!!! once again another great podcast!
October 20th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
“So what are the parents of all those children supposed to do with this information?” (Eeyore)
Possibly, if the need to discuss this should arise at all, teach them tolerance, acceptance (what these books are about anyway…)? And why on earth shouldn´t gay relationships be happy and fulfilling? !
I found that bit of news regarding Dumbledore very interesting but I really don´t see why this is such a big deal…it fits with what we know about Dumbledore, it doesn´t change anything.
October 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
I have just been over to Leaky and the comments there are really divided. I have to agree with Eeyore on this one I don’t think JK really needed to reveal this one, I never thought DD was gay while reading the books and now it just opens the doors to all those critics out there that don’t like HP. If she wanted him to be gay why didn’t she put it out there right from the beginning, I believe she didn’t because she didn’t want adults stopping their kids reading them. Easy to come out and say it after the series is finished. As for the Grindelwald relationship, I don’t think he had to be in love with him to be blind, sometimes influential people come into our lives that make us do things we normally wouldn’t do. I actually thought the whole relationship alluded to ‘peer pressure’ more than love.
October 20th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Thanks, Mizz Andy. That really is the way I feel about it. I just re-read all the portions of DH that have to do with Dumbledore, and there really is nothing there that says he was gay or that his relationship with Grindelwald was anything but friendship. I’m glad to know that I didn’t misread it before JKR gave us this latest information.
Sarah, my comments are from the point of view of a Christian who loves the Harry Potter books. I’ve been reading them since 1999. And pouring over every detail and every interview. That has put me, more times than I care to recollect, in the position of defending the books to parents who are concerned about what their children read or movies they see. I was so pleased with book 7, and even more pleased that Rowling openly acknowledged the Christian themes in the books. I felt that I didn’t have to defend her or Harry Potter any longer.
The problem with Dumbledore being gay (but none of it being part of the actual story), is that parents of younger children have to figure out how to deal with the information. If they are following scripture they can’t just throw out the part that says a homosexual relationship is against God’s plan. You can’t pick and chose what parts you want to believe.
The older I get the more I am tired of the politically correct stance that has been pushed down our throats. It has come to mean that if you are on the side of what is now seen as politically correct it is OK to state your views, but if you disagree in any way, then you are wrong, a bigot, intolerant, and the list goes on.
I looked up the word “tolerate” in my trusty Websters Dictionary–the one printed back in the 1960s, before the world became obsessed with being politically correct.
“1. to allow; permit; not interfere with.
2. to recognize and respect (others’ beliefs, practices, etc.) without necessarily agreeing or sympathizing.
3. to put up with; bear: as he tolerates his brother-in-law.”
So by those definitions, I’m a tolerant person, and have managed to teach that to both our daughters. But I would not be a good parent if I hadn’t also told them my views about all kinds of issues in the world. Our girls are grown, so this sort of conversation is easier. And you’ll be happy to know that they don’t agree with me; they both have friends who are gay and they don’t see it as wrong. I’ve met their friends, talked with them, enjoyed them. I don’t criticize them or try to change them. All of that falls in the realm of being tolerant, but it does not mean that I condone or approve of their life-style. That said, it doesn’t really matter what I think of their life-style. My opinion won’t be the one that counts when they die and have to account for the life they have lived.
Actually I just had this conversation with my 29 year old this morning. She, however, feels as I do, that Rowling should have kept this particular revelation to herself as it does nothing but cause controversy.
And Greg and Penny–I won’t be offended if you delete my post if it seems to inflamatory. But I felt that Sarah deserved an answer to her question. This actually is what bothers me the most about Rowling’s most recent bombshell. The Christian content, as she said, was always there and many people did see it. That Dumbledore was gay was never obvious to most people, only to those who were desperate to have a gay character in the story. She’s opened can of worms with this one, and it would have been better left closed.
Pat
October 20th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
Speaking of inflamitory. This whole thing was meant to be such. No other purpose is served by it.
October 21st, 2007 at 5:52 am
Thanks for clearing that up, Eeyore. While I don´t agree with your views (having quite a few good friends in absolutely happy and fulfilling gay relationships), I can certainly tolerate them, too. I didn´t mean to sound offensive, either.
October 21st, 2007 at 6:58 am
It really doesn’t matter that Dumblydore is gay or not . . . I agree that JK was probably pushing buttons here. That said, I applaud Sarah on her views and respect Eeyore’s as well as they seem a level headed response in the context of his belief system. Too bad more of the “faithful” don’t share the same amount of tolerance . . .
JK is not perfect and I think many of us have put her on somewhat of a pedestal - I’m getting the same feeling I got when she went on that lawsuit trip about the paparazzi and her kids . . .
I think JK’s intentions were mostly good - perhaps she felt she ought to try and include the Gay/Lesbian community so as to provide a sense of inclusion into the world she created for those students - this could be me putting her on a pedestal again but I do think she has a general love of people and wasn’t necessarily being malicious.
I’ll stop making suppositions here - the proverbial cat is out of the bag, so I reckon all we do is deal with it in whatever way we see fit. For myself, it’s not a big deal as it has no real bearing on the story. A romantic interest/relationship with Grindevald does nothing to explain or justify his actions - were he a breeder, I don’t think it would have changed his actions as it is clear in the story that his infatuation lay in the fact that he an overachiever feeling trapped in a family situation that was keeping him back and it was the ideas that stimulated the relationship - it’s all there in the “Kings Cross” chapter . . .
Let’s leave it alone and move on - we all love the story and if you let something like this affect your experience negatively, then the only one who loses is you . . .
October 21st, 2007 at 7:21 am
Wow- its been a while. Anyway, I agree with whoever is saying she did it to push buttons. I think she just said something to make people talk and shock us all after the book is out.
As a person who thinks it doesnt matter what your sexuality is it matters who you are, a part of me thinks JKR’s decision to make this announcement was not a good one. Not because it does not lend anything to the character or because it makes me disgusted with the whole thing, but because the controversy of Harry Potter should not be about sexuality. It shouldn’t take away from the wonderful story it is and how children were reading. It draws a line in the sand that I didnt think needed to be drawn. I do agree with Vince who says that focusing on this will only make you lose out on the fun that is Harry Potter land.
As a teacher, I am wondering what the conversation will be on Monday, what will come out of my students mouth? I hope for tolerance but I imagine I will not hear it. I dont know, maybe what she did is a good thing. We are a nation that focuses to much on people’s love lives. Does it make Dumbledore less of a hero as we read him? no. Does it make Dumbledore more flawed? No, many have fallen in love with someone who was not the best person and been blinded by them. In the end does it matter? To me, it doesnt change my view of the character but I do wonder about Jo’s motives..
alright..I am done with my ramble..
October 21st, 2007 at 9:35 am
Wow. Our internet and cable were down for a long time (apparently there were large spread outages around here) and I can’t believe that I missed all this news!!
OK, I have a few things to say on this matter.
First of all, as long as there are no ad hominem or personal attacks in the comments and that the opinions that are expressed are done so with respect, clarity and maturity then by all means, please continue to discuss these topics. Remember, our tag line, “If you thought Harry Potter was just for kids, think again.” That means, that we can discuss mature topics with respect and sincerity.
As far as the revelation that Dumbledore was gay. Here is my opinion. I don’t care either way what DD’s sexuality was. I am looking at this more from a literary perspective. If there had been hints throughout the series that had the readers prognosticating about his sexuality and JKR finally confirmed that he was gay, I would have appreciated it more. I feel like this came out of NOWHERE and as a reader I don’t appreciate it. It is one thing to reveal post facto that Ginny played quiddich for the Harpies- well that was something we all suspected might happen and it made sense within the context of the book.
But this goes and changes the way you look at parts of the book. I would even have felt this way if she revealed that Dumbledore had an unrequited love for McGonnagal- it makes you wonder- What was it he saw in the mirror of erised? Or What did he see when drinking the potion? All we have are harry’s thoughts on those. So now canon is effectively changed but we never got a hint of it throughout the series. So that is my issue.
I am sure I will have plenty more to contribute throughout what will sure to be an interesting conversation.
October 21st, 2007 at 11:15 am
I must be the most naive person in the world. I’m just schocked this has spawned so much discussion. When I read about JKR’s comments, I thought three things (while laughing out loud):
1-Hey, Penny’s right. JKR did reveal something huge in New York. She must be a real prognosticator.
2-Of course Dumbledore’s gay. That makes his actions in his personal life so much clearer. Dumbledore was so devastated that the man he chose to join his family was not a good man. That makes Ariana’s death so much more tragic. He probably thought he not only couldn’t be trusted with power, but also with any intimate relationship. It is as if he put himself into the closet, unwilling to look for another man to love, fearing he would make another wrong choice.
3 - Of course she told the audience with adults in it. The other sessions were all children.
I don’t believe she revealed Dumbledore’s sexuality as a media ploy. It was a specific answer to a specific question about Dumbledore and love. As she has been trying to teach tolerance for the last decade, it was one more area where we can see people are all the same. Also, just because her clues were exceedingly subtle doesn’t mean they weren’t there. Others recognized this possibility. Just because they all came from the fringe does not mean they weren’t right.
I scoffed, loud and long, at all the people who said Harry is a horcrux, and especially at all those who said Snape loved Lily. There were also people who said Dumbledore was gay. It wasn’t as big a rumor as some of the newspapers are making it out to be, but it was there. Who am I to say those people were wrong too? Obviously they’re weren’t.
Elizabeth
October 21st, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Ok tolerance is way over rated. I’m glad Dumbledore is dead and find myself wishing Voldemort had been sucessful. It is so clear why the limp wristed Dumbledore and Tom Riddle became protagonist. Why Dumbledore had to have little boys do his fighting while he cowered in his office. No wonder Voldemort was sucessful in destroying Dumbledore with a piece of jewelry. Evidently Dumbledore wasn’t even good at being gay. What a shame that the chocolate frog media is brainwashing us to accept such abominations and freaks when so many more believe Voldemort’s way of genocide and murder may have been the right choice. Yes the godlessness of Jk rowlings intent has finally shown itself and her desire to poison our children with tooty fruity heroics and false truths such as tolerance should be a jailable offense. It is truely ashame that we no longer burn witches at the stake. I know I would bring the marshmellows. I figure all of Dumbledores absences can be explained now because he was busy in airport mens rooms with our lovely liberal political figures. No wonder Aberforth broke his nose. Imagine the horrors and neglect poor Arianna had to witness. Brokeback Hogwarts and in the end it is the children who suffer. Yes JK Rowling has turned Harry Potter into nothing more than a bad Rocky Horror sequil. I don’t actually feel this way but I figure if JK Rowling can stir things up so can I.
October 21st, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Of all places I had hoped to not have to hear the words politically correct mumbled…………………………….
I had to go back and delete what I had written…….
Richard Harris is rolling over in his grave……………………………………………………………….
October 21st, 2007 at 4:21 pm
I really want to reply to Aaron, for various reasons.
I really hope you are kidding other wise your facts are incredibly off as is your spelling. I am praying that I missed a joke and am just being offended at something you intended to be funny.
If not –
1. Sen. Larry Craig was not liberal — very far from it. He was an ardent republican. He is as right wing as the day is long. In other words — not a liberal … at all…
2. Rocky Horror sequel –
3. I dont get the chocolate frog media thing..
(thats why I am hoping its a joke…because that made no sense to me so maybe its a joke..)
4. Teaching children that they can change the world and that it takes one person to make a difference IS an important lesson. Teaching them that it doesnt matter who you love its HOW is important. Teaching children as Dumbledore so wonderfully put it “that it doesnt matter who you are born but who you become” IS important. Lessons in tolerance are important CLEARLY for reason mainly so our children sound educated and compassionate rather than ignorant and afraid of things that are different. Not to mention, JKR asks people to think creatively and to hope. I work with children who come from awful histories and if they find something that gives them hope — even if its a fantasy world, I am willing to take it. If nothing else because these students need the ability to escape.
Again,
I hope you are kidding. While I respect your right to believe in whatever way you want I cannot in wrap my brain around hating or dismissing someone because of the way in which their heart works. I do not want to change your mind I want simply for you to get your facts straight before you spout and to spout in a more respectful fashion.
But I will go with you are kidding — it makes that liberal brain of mine sleep easier.
October 21st, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Meg- I think he was kidding. He ended the post with, “I don’t actually feel this way but I figure if JK Rowling can stir things up so can I”
October 21st, 2007 at 7:42 pm
Ok spelling aside I was kidding but making a point to what reactions one can expect from such a statement. I never care how I spell because whoever measures my intelligence by it doesn’t know me and is thus insignificant in my demonic realm. (another joke but if I cared I’d use spell check) I will further explain my feelings just a little so you get the point which useally is on top of my head. I probably was the biggest homophobe in existence. 21 years in the Army where homosexual conduct will get you canned or probably killed forces such things underground. Thus when an event surfaces it is useally criminal and very perverted and ugly. Nuff said just seen some bad stuff. Now this does not mean that all gay people are criminal but when the only aspect of it that is seen is it can greatly influence ones opinion in such an environment where it is forbidden by law an still is btw. Same goes for most stereotypes and bigotry. It is driven by ignorance as much as by fear and hate.
As for the word tolerance it should be banned. It has become used in such a context to shut up opinion and tell people they should sit and take it for the sake of being non-offensive. Blah blah blah. Does no good. Get it out in the open. Know who you are dealing with and learn to listen as well as speak. That involves putting yourself in the other persons shoes as much as mentally possible and not filling the blnak spaces with assumptions.
Politically I am somewhat apathetic. I have been lied to by many more so called liberal democrats than republicans. My home town is North East Ohio which is a bastion of liberal democrats and it is a depressing shell of what it once was due to broken liberal promises. Not saying republicans are any better at it but just a little more realistic and a shard more honest. This pertaining to current political figures and not individual americans. Generally you can tell when a politition is lying by when their lips move.
Religion born and raised United Church of Christ. Pretty liberal as far as churches go. I am of a belief that if there is any fairness in the world it comes from God. No matter who you are you end up dead in the end is a good example of this. I feel no Church is better than any other. A church is it’s people and not it’s belief system. I have one simple prayer and it goes something like,” Hey God let me do right by you.” I figure anything else is outta my control.
Now am I perfect no way. I haven’t the room to list my faults but my point was What was JK Rowlings point. Struck me as she was looking to liven up things and break away from what has surely become routine for her. Guess it worked.
October 21st, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Where is doasis when you need her?
October 21st, 2007 at 8:01 pm
thank you !! I am so glad that we did not put our kids in that liberal non spellin school system in Ohio…… Should of got you spell check for your birthday…
You have to have LOTS of Tolerance to read his posts sweetheart..
October 21st, 2007 at 8:33 pm
I do just know that Potter Pals had it all right with Dumbledore wanting Naked Time all the time now…. makes lots of sense
October 21st, 2007 at 10:05 pm
I have many issues about why I’m very disappointed in this news, but I’ll only share a couple of them here.
I agree with Penny that it was not hinted at before.
But, in a practical way, the biggest problem I have is how do I explain this to my kids? If the Harry Potter books were considered grown up books, I wouldn’t have as much of a problem with it. But they’re marketed it kids, and there were kids at this event. An 8 year old asked about Aberforth and the answer sounded to me like she would have given a much different one had an adult asked the question. But it shouldn’t be just about who is asking (unless they ask in a much more private forum). Jo had to know (1) kids were there at the event in Carnegie Hall and (2) kids would read her comments on the internet. She’s got to understand by now that all of her words spoken at events like this are transcribed and posted on the internet within a day or two of her having spoken them. I’d really like to know how she’d feel if someone came up to her children on the street and told them that someone they knew well, someone their mother had introduced to them, was gay. Maybe she wouldn’t care. Or maybe she’d find herself in the position of having to have a conversation she wished she could wait a few years for.
I don’t think it was a publicity stunt. I think it just was something that came up. But it was something she should have kept to herself. I just can’t believe she wouldn’t see how this new might not be popular with at least a large slice of her fandom.
October 21st, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Wow,
ok, where do I start. Eeyore, you described tolerence as using respect, and I do not believe that all of your comments were very respectful. Next, Penny, you said that this changes the way you see Dumbledore’s role in the books. I think the reason we didn’t know for so long is that JK didn’t want us to judge him based on his sexuality. She obviously doesn’t see it as something that effects his personality, the same reason she doesn’t always reveal characters race or religious practices. She’s not being biased.
I feel that it is a shame that some people will turn away from this series because JK told us about Dumbledore’s background. Aren’t we all doing this because we want to know more? Why prognosticate if we don’t want to find out new information?
October 21st, 2007 at 10:46 pm
I just want to add that I am currently re reading HBP and have found that the news has changed my view a little. I just can’t seem to see the same DD I used to have in my head, maybe its because our world is full of stereotypes and we are human so we have to admit that we do stereotype. I am a little disappointed because this changes the character (to me) a lot and we have to consider that this is now canon, and my DD is now Alternative universe.
October 22nd, 2007 at 6:09 am
Tabetha- to clarify, I don’t look at Dumbledore as different, I look at the story line as different and that is my only issue. My issues are with canon being changed based on JKR’s post facto discussions.
October 22nd, 2007 at 5:37 pm
Aaron –
I apologize for my rant — got so incensed I didnt read the last sentence …
Which is just awful on my part…I always tell my students to read all the way to the bottom of a page before making a comment..
did not follow my own directions..
Ms. Luvgood -
Just out of curiosity what is there to fear from homosexuality? What are you concerned about explaining? I mean if it was an 8 year old and I wasnt ready to say what sex actually was I would say they are in love and that makes them happy.
Thats just me!
:o)
October 23rd, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Y’all grown-ups are funny.
October 31st, 2007 at 3:14 pm
My %&$@# iPod just went to iPod heaven, and Mom’s not getting another one, so I have to stop listing to your guys podcast. Cue the sad face.
November 26th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
It makes me sad that Draco only has 3%.
I love him so much.
=(